Decisions, decisions. What should we do?

Decisions, decisions

With a municipal election fast approaching the word on the street is that we have at least two candidates for the mayoralty chair at this time. One is either the mayor or one of his clones, what we’ll call ‘new school’. The other is an neophyte elite establishment type coming from the lucky sperm club, which we’ll call ‘old school’.

Then there is the undecided moi, the one these two worry about. Which has been quite obvious of late as their followers have descended on this blog like ravaging dogs attempting at every turn in doing their best to discredit me for consideration as your next mayor, while their boys play it save by hiding out in their lairs.

What is to be done? Should I step aside and let this community’s denizens, known for their past “voting for a name, not knowing the man” decision making foibles, decide, yet again, the fate of our municipality?

If so, will they take it in the direction of ‘new school’ with more unwanted changes, higher taxes, and dividing the community even further than it is already. In continuing to both destroy and hijack that which built this community by replacing the old with the new in installing newbies of their own kind in both our municipal office and in the field, and on all our community boards and committees.

Or towards ‘old school’ where newcomers are ostracized and where in all likelihood an attempt will be made to restore it to the former Irwin glory days of when cronyism, nepotism and the old boys network ruled supreme. With its network of volunteer groups (including firemen) who were historically given unlimited autonomy and special privileges provided they demonstrated complete loyalty and obeisance to their supreme leader, who could never do any wrong… even while doing so much of it… during their watch.

Is there any hope for a middle way when this community is so clearly divided between these two extremes, of one camp or the other? If there is, then I would be it.


Pay attention to the whispers, so we won’t have to listen to the screams.

from John Prince
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51 Responses to Decisions, decisions. What should we do?

  1. Anonymous says:

    I think you are assuming your the ONLY true candidate since no one has really announced, that’s super arrogant of you. Also the whole we’re all too stupid to figure out your the only choice. Here’s a thought. Maybe you act so arrogant and entitled to the seat yourself it’s like a mirror image of the mayor only a bit younger. It REALLY turns people off too after everything the current mayor and council has put us through. It’s total tripe, like Mayor’s Corner.

  2. John Prince says:

    Boy, oh boy, I must have hit a nerve with this post as I have already had a couple of comments that I cannot post knowing as I do from readers here over the last few days warning me about their gentile sensibilities. :_)

    What I can say is, keep it coming boys! I want to see you angry, mad, saying I ain’t going to take it anymore!!! Then direct and vent your anger where it belongs, not against the messenger but those who want to keep giving you more of the same of what you have been getting these past three years or take you back to the good ol days (sic) where it was all for them and not even crumbs for you. Yes, get angry, get mad and then get even by making sure you don’t vote for either of them again, and tell your friends, neighbours, and family to do the same.


  3. Anonymous says:

    You will not win John all you will do is spilt the opposition vote enough to let Bruce/Brian get re-elected that will achieve lots.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Anon @6:47
    And that would be bad? With ‘old school’ being a better option. You really think so? If you do, then you are a sucker for punishment, aren’t you?


  5. Anonymous says:

    What does out of the pot and into the fire mean?

    I believe it means going from a bad situation to a worse one.

    New school vs. Old school

  6. Anonymous says:

    I think we need to find someone in between the supposed new school and old school.

  7. Anonymous says:

    John if you decide not to run. Would you throw your support behind Bruce, Brian or Blair?

  8. John Prince says:

    Anon @8:15
    None of the above is the answer to your question. For I agree with Anon @8:10.

    For the record, if I decide ^not to run for mayor and the only two mayoralty candidates were either new school or old school, I would ^not run for a council seat either.

    I’m for a progressive middle of the road mayor and council ^not for an extremist or regressive one.


  9. Anonymous says:

    No “in between” is willing to run. Not for Mayor anyways. Council you never know. There might be a few that pop up which wouldn’t be completely terrible.

  10. Anonymous says:

    “Lucky sperm club”? It’s actually the in-laws that have the bank roll, Painters are a sweet, non-elite family from Frank.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Maybe too sweet?

  12. Anonymous says:

    I have never heard of Blair Painter. Who is he please.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Get someone to nominate you and run.You will regrete if you don’t lots of voters count on you all the work you did to inform them of the corruption and problems.
    Now they expect you will be part of the SOLUTIONS.
    Do not let us down we need you more now because we relise the mess we are in it MUST be fix.
    If you don’t win you will still be proud of your accomplishement you have done a lot for us for FREE
    WE tank you.
    WE all know campaining is just who bulls—t the best your not a bullshiter don’t go door to door do your work public in debates
    people will see what you stand for’

  14. Anonymous says:

    Figured out who he is from facebook. Part of ratepayers.

  15. Anonymous says:

    Ratepayer exec. are ‘old school’ with most of them being establishment types, like their man Blair.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Yes, looks like he already has his niche also. I would prefer someone that has not been here long enough to be entrenched with anyone.

  17. Anonymous says:

    I think the opposite is true. People who are new, or newly returned, to the Pass have a not-so-spectacular track record. They seem unfamiliar with the unique culture of the municipality,and seem to be in over their heads most of the time. Mayor Decoux for example…

  18. Anonymous says:

    But, what is big – they also do not have the inbred corruption. That takes a while.

  19. Anonymous says:

    i think you need to run for council and prove yourself there people truly think your a wild card and are afraid of your attitude

  20. Anonymous says:

    blair painter is a good man

  21. Anonymous says:

    Okay, he has my vote he is a good man.

  22. Anonymous says:

    “new school vs old school’
    Messed up people in a messed up town looking for salvation in all the wrong places.

    Walk away John.

  23. Anonymous says:

    Painter is an ex Blairmore Fireman – will his platform be to return things to the way they were? There is a delusional group in town with the goal of going back to the way it was and undo everything this council has done. I guess Painter is brave to run considering he has a business in town.

  24. Anonymous says:

    “There is a delusional group in town with the goal of going back to the way it was and undo everything this council has done.”

    That group is known as the Ratepayer Executive with their man Blair.

  25. Anonymous says:

    No matter what, there were issues with the firemen. That is probably going to be his goal, as I know his family was quite vocal.
    I would not vote for him. It was just be like going back in time, with the firemen running things again. Oh no.

  26. Anonymous says:

    @ anon 5:03 What exactly did the firemen used to run? Could you clarify that please? I know they all used to volunteer for a lot of great causes. Is that what you’re referring to?

  27. The Doomsayer says:

    John, after reading a lot of the comments over the last few days, I think Anonymous @ 3:13 PM has it right: Walk Away

    “”new school vs old school’
    “Messed up people in a messed up town looking for salvation in all the wrong places.”
    What I’m seeing is people wanting perfect answers wrapped in sugar candy & to heck with the truth. If there ever was a recurrence of the decades old feuds, it’s now. There is a definite right & left with no sign of a middle ground.

    John, you keep advocating for yourself as a middle of the road candidate. Looks like if you keep it up along with your in-your-face honesty, you could well end up being road-kill.

    I have always endorsed your tilt-at-windmills lone-voice-in the-wilderness approach but after talking to a lot people & reading all the blogs, this is one crusade not worth the effort. Going back is now impossible & following Decoux’s forward will destroy this community. Middle of the road will only delay the inevitable.

    Let all the snake-in-the-grass back-stabbing sniveling “nit-wits” fight it out & in a few years, we should be able to get a heck of a deal at the bankruptcy sale.

    “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
    ― Winston Churchill

  28. Anonymous says:

    John don’t let these people who tell you to quit sway you. They are obviously working for the other side and are trying to discourage you. Don’t let them win. You are the one that will do what is right for everyone. The middle way is the way to go.

  29. John Prince says:

    Anon @3:13 & Doomsayer,
    “Walk away John”

    I’m not ready to give up on this community and its people quite yet. Although, another man probably would have a long time ago, considering what I’ve been put through and the price I’ve paid over the years in trying to open peoples eyes to what our problems are here, and what we can do about them.

    Besides, if you’ve got a proven track record of standing up and fighting for this community and its people vs those who just take advantage, being crass opportunists having no vision or imagination primarily looking for a part-time, ego-tripping, social affair gig. Or who have for years been missing in action, despite Rome burning all around them for the past two decades, because their one thing had never before been adversely impacted by the powers that be, resulting in they’re now suddenly developing political aspirations (being a one-trick pony), then I think it is not I that should be walking away… but them. Don’t ya think?

    I also feel I have an obligation to my readers here and to this community in exposing a certain organization of hypocrites along with all two-faced “snake-in-the-grass back-stabbing snivelling “nit-wits” “as you, Doomsayer, so amply called them. So that we ensure as much as possible that only good, caring, honest, qualified people having the abilities to move this community forward occupy those seats on council come October.

    This is my mission. We take no prisoners and ask for no quarter and if voters here can’t see the writing on the wall then we’ll just have to spell it out to them.

    Anon @7:12
    I hear ya! Thanks for your support. Much appreciated.


  30. Anonymous says:

    What did I tell you? He’s a stallion. (Keep rearing up, and fighting ’em off John, we appreciate it!)

  31. Doomsayer says:

    John, I thought that’s what you would say but you can’t fault a person for trying. When you find a man beating his head against the wall, you try to tell him it feels much better when he stops. Follow your destiny.

    If you want to save this community, my feeling is that the only option is cut, slash, burn & cauterize. The new council will have to thoroughly clean house with no regard for loyalties other than to the Pass as a whole.
    The procedure would be ugly but straight forward.

    First; Any redundant position in the municipal office – fire. There is no reason upper management can’t double up on responsibilities, fire others. Other positions can be doubled up, fire others. How many secretaries do we need? Fire the rest. If anyone complains about too much work, fire them. Someone else will do their job.

    Second; do we need a fire chief & deputy? NO!! Fire them & the paid firemen. Bring back our volunteers, albeit stripped down & streamlined because most of the equipment is gone but the volunteers have served us faithfully for years.

    Third; cancel all fancy projects! Do we need fancy new entrance markers? NO! Cancel. Do we need an undetermined expenditure for the CLC site? NO! Wait until we actually have a do-able plan in place. Do we need a long & expensive fight trying to rip off our neighbours? NO! Leave Ranchlands alone. Do we need to sell our electrical grid? NO! Selling for pennies today doesn’t save us dollars in the future.

    Fourth; Consultants, study groups, any other fancy hangers-on, fire, disband or dump. We can’t spend money for people who want to tell us what we should do when we don’t have the money to do it.

    Fifth; any group or organization posing or proclaiming to be non-profit needs to prove they actually are. Without pointing fingers, there are too many groups using municipal facilities & obtaining municipal funding while having more than enough funds from other sources to survive & prosper. Unless you can actually prove you need the funding, OUT!

    Last; no new spending of any sort until our books can balance.

    Plain & simple, the bottom line is survival. The days of caviar & champagne are over, we need a diet of bread & water until we get our finances in order. Trim the fat until we can stand soundly on our feet & if any snivelling weasels don’t like it, move on!

    “Get beyond love and grief: exist for the good of Man.”
    Miyamoto Musashi; A Book of Five Rings:

  32. Anonymous says:

    Doomsayer, I know there are some out there that can’t get past your first few sentences, but I just thought I’d let you know, that I look forward to your posts, and I thank you for the time and effort.

  33. Anonymous says:

    So John, you reference fire dept as old school. Does that mean that you agree with the changes made and would keep it in place if you were mayor?

  34. Anonymous says:

    Let me make this perfectly clear. In fact, crystal clear, for those of you who seem to like to lump anyone and everyone from any organization into one pile. Not all the ratepayers executive is old school or in total agreement of everything going back to the way it was before. There are a few who feel that a middle ground is the best option for this community to move forward. Nothing makes me more angry than those people who automatically lump everyone they think they don’t agree with, into one shoebox, without so much as even getting to know those that they judge.

  35. Anonymous says:

    Doomsayer 9:08PM right on. Most people, especially those in the muni building, may hesitate to take this medicine but it is what is needed. Middle of the road it is not; pragmatic it is. Look for a backlash on your comment from the Hallowed Halls. They think that they are doing God’s Work.

  36. Anonymous says:

    This is nothing what you read here from a few rats. We have a silent majority that watch all this. The way the rats get vicious when they sense something is threatening them. Keep at doing the right thing and exposing those PARASITES for what they are.

    12:34 made it crystal clear for you. Don’t believe that a couple rats talk for the Community as a whole. More insults against you only proves you’re telling the truth. Don’t give up, they are leaning very badly, they will fall soon.

    You motivate so many people with so little. They harass all of us with our own MONEY. Very sick! To top this off they are telling us how good of a job they’re doing. Do they think we are all blind and unable to see what is going on? I suppose they believe we are not educated, that we have to be told what to think and believe.

  37. John Prince says:

    Anon @11:37
    What a great question. One that I expect and hope will be asked by our print media of ALL candidates in their Q&A during the election.

    In the meantime, I think it would give my opponents an unfair advantage if I were to answer that now.


  38. Anonymous says:

    “Inbred corruption”? I’m not even sure what that means. “Messed up people in a messed up town”? So, you are “messed up” and running for office to make a change then, right Anon at 3:13? Instead of continually beating a dead horse with this irrational fear of this old school, old boys, old ideas institution, how about you instead look for candidates who have common sense, a vested interest in the community’s success, and a bit of a backbone? That can be someone old, young, modern, traditional, whatever! The problem is that the voters are just as “old school”‘ “corrupt” and “messed up” as the councils/candidates they are complaining about. Remember voters: a mayoral license plate does a good mayor make.

  39. Anonymous says:


    You completely lost me. Maybe I’m just “messed up?”

  40. Anonymous says:

    “… a mayoral license plate does a good mayor make.”


  41. Anonymous says:

    “Not all the ratepayers executive is old school or in total agreement of everything going back to the way it was before.”

    Maybe not, but enough of you are so if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that bitch up & wear it.

  42. Anonymous says:

    How could the Ratepayers be labelled Old School when they are made up of a cross section of Pass residents? They have as many opinions as there are members. This Old School New School bit is a bunch of crap.

  43. Anonymous says:

    7:38 You don’t know what you are talking about.Every member is old school, doesn’t matter what town they live in.Not one of them is new school.Name me some who aren’t?There all about status quo.Thats why they are backing Blair.

  44. Anonymous says:

    July 16, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Do you even know who makes up the ratepayers executive? Maybe you should get to know who you are lumping into one pile.

    Name one?? You want just one name??

    Okay. I’ll give you one name who isn’t all old school or wanting things to completely go back the way they were.

    Sasha JaegerBaird

    There’s one name for you. Ask her. In fact, she is planning on running again in the next election. She did last time too. Get her views. Ask where she stands.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Fancy side stepping on the Fire Dept issue. What is your position? You must have one

  46. Anonymous says:

    Forgot about here, the one exception. Now name another?

    Can’t yu read? He did take a position. Why don’t you state yours?

  47. Anonymous says:


  48. Anonymous says:

    Oh sure, tell us another one… ‘anonymous’.

    I bet you have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona too?

  49. Anonymous says:

    Let the people judge for themselves.If the people listed below are not ‘old school’ (except for Sasha),and who the establishment types are starting with Bill.And whether or not individually or collectively who they would be supporting and advocating for which of course would be Blair for he is one of them.

    Bill Kovach
    Marilyn Milley
    Sasha JaegerBaird
    Gail Montgomery
    Troy Clark
    Ed Strembicki
    Marlene Anctil
    Larry Ruzek
    Rudy Pagnucco

  50. Anonymous says:

    This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

  51. Anonymous says:

    Seems we may have a few Ratepayers executive posting here.

    Also to anonymous at 12:56 pm:

    Comments from 12:36 pm are not from the same person as 12:04 am. I know because I made the one’s at 12:04 am. and I did not make 12:36’s comments. You are thinking we are one and the same. We are not.

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