VIDEO: The Problems with First Past the Post

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First Past the Post


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13 Responses to VIDEO: The Problems with First Past the Post

  1. Chloe says:

    John thank you for more food for thought. I did not vote Conservative, would not shake hands with the PM if given the chance. Change is coming in Canada, not for the better. Wannabe leaders who have a personal agenda,one guided by religion seldom do right by those they govern. This PM scares the s**t out of me. Take care.

  2. John Prince says:

    Amen on all accounts Chloe. Along with the upcoming financial collapse, leading to a depression, we’ll also have new prisons to go along with state oppression… and people actually voted for this? :-) :-(

  3. Chloe says:

    I’ll beat the rush John, and pick up my ‘UniCan’ flag before we become the 51st state. Enjoy the weekend, hopefully without snow. Take care.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Chloe said “leaders agenda guided by religion”

    And how does that compare with leaders agenda NOT guided by religion. F.eks. Hitlers, Stalins, Maos, Pol Pots, Castros, Kim Il Jungs…..just to mention a few.

  5. John Prince says:

    Chloe can answer this if she wants but this is what I have to say.

    History has shown its the Inquisition, millions of women burned at the stake, its the holy crusades, with their modern equivilents playing themselves out as we speak in Iraq, Afgan., etc, I could go on and on but I think you get the picture.

    It’s just that the mixing of blind ideology and religious zeal usually produces suffering and hardship on the masses. That’s why democracy was invented, to in essence separate state and religion, as it should be.

  6. Interesting today 69% of British voters rejected a new voting system that would have done away with the first past the post system (same as Canada).
    Also interesting for the first time a Scotish separarist party won a majority and promised a vote on independence in the next four years.

    Dean Ward

  7. John Prince says:

    I read the news too and caught those stories also… and thought they weren’t worth commenting on.

  8. John Prince says:

    You know Dean, it would be nice if you added commentary along with the headlines. Like the point you are trying to make, or position you are trying to tear down so that we know where you are coming from, and where you stand on things. That way we are on the same page, so to speak.

  9. I don’t have a problem with the present system you are not going to have a majority “vote” as long as you have more than two parties.
    If two left of centre parties wish to keep spliting their vote shame on them. At least the PC’s and reformers had the brains to realize that they were doing the same with the right wing vote and had the brains to fix it.
    If you look at any country where they have a lot of coalition governments they don’t do very well take Italy for example I think they have had about 50 elections since WWII that’s insane. Israel would be another example.
    In a sense you have to give Steve Harper credit for lasting so long with a minority government.
    It either says he was very good at playing the opposition or they did not have the balls to take him down!

    I read an interesting article prior to the election call, (forget the writer) but is whole theory was that Iggy knew he coulc never win as the head of the Liberals so he forced this election as is way out.
    If that’s no true then he sure mis read the public.

    Dean Ward

  10. John Prince says:

    Where have you been all election that now you suddenly appear wanting to debate politics with me?

    I believe you are correct in what you say in your first two paragraphs and with your fourth, but not with your third.

    That story you quoted makes me think you really should stay away from the National Enquiry? :-)

    /btw Stephen Harper and his conservatives got only 25% of those eligible to vote making him and his party effectively worth a measly 25 cents, rather than a loonie. Do the math man! Besides that, I didn’t vote for him. I don’t pay a loonie for somthing that’s only worth a lousy quarter. :-)

  11. peter rosner says:

    consider this for a minute the present system is working just fine. What has happened to the masses every time we have handed a political party a majority. Our recent history is the best example of how hard a minority government will have to work and do a good job to stay in power.With majority governments our MP’S usually end up with even more conflict and scams than we have seen during Harper’s leadersship. What is clear after this election is that even liberal supporters have had enough of their own party trying to prop up weak leaders and selling that to the people.Like the conservatives before them they will have to rebuild or merge with another party. The people have spoken and in some cases where they voted in some first time MP’s they obviosly had enough of the same old message. —-Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.—- British Historian Lord Acton

  12. John Prince says:

    That’s all fine and dandy Peter but the bottom line is the present system sucks, and you should know that. It needs fixing. As in Alberta, as in Canada, we have a dispproportionate number of seats going to conservatives, whose standings in popular vote represents only 25% of the population, or less, dictating to the 75% who didn’t vote for them. Something wrong with this picture! If the system does not represent us, then something is wrong with the system. The system either has to be changed, or thrown out.

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